Comments on: Overpopulation http://www.grindcore.org/2009/08/31/overpopulation/ Grindcore music, grindcore bands, grindcore musicians, grindcore album reviews and more at GRINDCORE.ORG Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:42:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: POD-Stas http://www.grindcore.org/2009/08/31/overpopulation/comment-page-1/#comment-324 POD-Stas Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:25:42 +0000 http://www.grindcore.org/?p=153#comment-324 Wow very good article. I think, that grindcore would be the most amazing musician vector. Wow very good article. I think, that grindcore would be the most amazing musician vector.

]]> By: mr.Scum http://www.grindcore.org/2009/08/31/overpopulation/comment-page-1/#comment-288 mr.Scum Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:27:43 +0000 http://www.grindcore.org/?p=153#comment-288 "The power of population is indefinitely greater than the power in the earth to produce subsistence for man. Population, when unchecked, increases in a geometrical ratio. Subsistence increases only in an arithmetical ratio. A slight acquaintance with numbers will show the immensity of the first power in comparison with the second." "The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world" Thomas Robert Malthus “The power of population is indefinitely greater than the power in the earth to produce subsistence for man. Population, when unchecked, increases in a geometrical ratio. Subsistence increases only in an arithmetical ratio. A slight acquaintance with numbers will show the immensity of the first power in comparison with the second.”
“The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world”

Thomas Robert Malthus

]]> By: Sinead O'Mahony http://www.grindcore.org/2009/08/31/overpopulation/comment-page-1/#comment-280 Sinead O'Mahony Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:28:47 +0000 http://www.grindcore.org/?p=153#comment-280 i think this is a great website!! keep the goodwork up man! i think this is a great website!!
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]]> By: Guy http://www.grindcore.org/2009/08/31/overpopulation/comment-page-1/#comment-186 Guy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:12:52 +0000 http://www.grindcore.org/?p=153#comment-186 well, once again a problem without much propositions to solve it. But it's quite interesting to discuss that on such a blog. Reading the pages you gave links to, it seems that some people may be affraid to face the problem - but the others are definitely affraid to face the solution. Indeed, the very first question to ask should be "why do people reproduce at those rates?". To me, overpopulation is rather a collateral damage than a genuine problem. There are of course obvious economic reasons for it. Having a large family multiplies sources of income (as cooperation between individuals is more efficient than the simple sum of individuals). If I were poor, and clever, I would thus certainly have several children. Some would be sacrificed to work in the fields, some others to beg in the closest city, that other one would be allowed to go to school and, who knows?, maybe he or she could migrate, find a decent and human situation and send some change back. The most cynic businessman knows that he must diversify his incomes - why poor people with such a developed survival instinct shouldn't? Of course, if I live in a poor country, I certainly don't have any easy access to medication - so I guess I'd need to get many children to get sure enough will live individually so that we can survive collectively. There's nothing wrong living like that. In the other hand, looking at some maps, it also seems to me that overpopulation is rather well correlated with the influence of the local religious power and associated criminal anti-abortion lobbies. So all in all, destroy all religions, redistribute wealth - and you may get it. As long as religion and money will govern us, there is no solution to overpopulation - or do it the chinese way. But then, please, provide me a rocket to leave this Earth. well, once again a problem without much propositions to solve it. But it’s quite interesting to discuss that on such a blog.
Reading the pages you gave links to, it seems that some people may be affraid to face the problem – but the others are definitely affraid to face the solution. Indeed, the very first question to ask should be “why do people reproduce at those rates?”. To me, overpopulation is rather a collateral damage than a genuine problem.
There are of course obvious economic reasons for it. Having a large family multiplies sources of income (as cooperation between individuals is more efficient than the simple sum of individuals). If I were poor, and clever, I would thus certainly have several children. Some would be sacrificed to work in the fields, some others to beg in the closest city, that other one would be allowed to go to school and, who knows?, maybe he or she could migrate, find a decent and human situation and send some change back. The most cynic businessman knows that he must diversify his incomes – why poor people with such a developed survival instinct shouldn’t?
Of course, if I live in a poor country, I certainly don’t have any easy access to medication – so I guess I’d need to get many children to get sure enough will live individually so that we can survive collectively. There’s nothing wrong living like that.
In the other hand, looking at some maps, it also seems to me that overpopulation is rather well correlated with the influence of the local religious power and associated criminal anti-abortion lobbies.
So all in all, destroy all religions, redistribute wealth – and you may get it. As long as religion and money will govern us, there is no solution to overpopulation – or do it the chinese way. But then, please, provide me a rocket to leave this Earth.

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